How many Churches would muslims burn down if non muslims did the same using Muhammad ?
http://snooper.wordpress.com/2009/12/08/jesus-4-shariah/
How many Churches would muslims burn down if non muslims did the same using Muhammad ?
http://snooper.wordpress.com/2009/12/08/jesus-4-shariah/
Dear Malaysian Government,
Since you see it fit to ban Christians from using Allah, I would also like to suggest that you ban Muslims from using the word Tuhan and God because all other faiths in Malaysian use those words as well. This is to prevent muslims from confusing themselves that they are worshipping Jesus or Buddha or Krishna or Guru Nanak or the spirit who lives behind my aunt’s coconut tree in Sabak Bernam who occasionally gives out 4-D numbers.
And since you see it fit to claim certain words only belong to a certain faith, I would like you to also ban all muslims from speaking any language that is not Arabic. Since Allah is an Arabic word, and you claim it for your own, you are then not allowed to speak any other languages. Including Malay. Contrary to what many Malay Muslim jackoffs believe, the Malay culture is not part of Islam. Many Christians in East Malaysia speak Malay, so you might confuse many muslims into losing their faith and changing religions.
Since while we’re at it, why not ban all muslims from wearing any clothes that does not look Arabic in nature as it might confuse the muslims that they are in fact, a caucasian westerner and most likely then a non muslim. And also please ban all muslims from using any electronic appliance, contraption, invention, or idea that was invented from a Christian or a Jew or a Jap or Korean or Swede, basically a non muslim to cover all bases because then it might confuse muslims into praying to the Monkey God since really, most of today’s technological advances came from the western, non muslim world. Therefore, no muslims should be allowed to wear anything other than Thobes and we’d better stock up on camels unless you guys want to walk everywhere. And also, please ban all Islamic Hospitals because there is no such thing. All the contraptions and drugs in there are western based.
And also,
Dear Muslims in Malaysia,
Are you retarded? Are you going to stand by as the Malaysian Government insults your intelligence and your faith in your own God by saying that if a Christian uses the word Allah, instantly you will lose faith in the Maha Esa and want to pray to Jesus instead. Why not lose your faith when I use the word Tuhan? Doesn’t it mean the same thing?
In closing, can all those who are involved in the ban, think it’s justified, the judge who upheld the ban, all please please please please please Fuck Off And Die.
Rot In Hell,
A Malaysian with Half a Brain.
P.S. – and you wonder why everyone hates you.
When I was in high school, i remember the day that the School’s Christian Fellowship for students was banned from having meetings on school premises. The two christian teachers in the school were mysteriously transferred out to different schools and on the same day they left, we were told that the Christian Fellowship was banned from having meetings on school grounds. I remember clearly it was a Friday and when the two christian teachers were leaving with their belongings, muslim students shouted alluakhbar from the school surau. Even a petition with few hundred signatures from parents and students asking for permission to conduct the ten year old Fellowship on school grounds was ignored by the school administration. Yet at the same time, the school had a surau, partly paid and maintained by the non muslim taxpayers.
I am particularly annoyed today after reading Farish Noor’s self pitying Utusan Malaysia-esqe article about everything that is wrong about Europe. The same Europe that has allowed many many many many muslims to practice their religion openly and build hundreds of mosques and not ban Islam. Where should I even start with the hypocrisy? Muslims will quote phrases like “2:256 There is no compulsion in religion, for the right way is clearly from the wrong way.” Let’s start with Malaysia. Non muslims are forced to convert should they want to marry a non muslim. AND muslims are not allowed by law to convert to other religions. Hypocrisy.
Problem No.2 in Malaysia. Only Islam is publicly funded. All other religions depend on public donations even though every Malaysian pays taxes. Recently a mosque was built in Brickfields using public funds. Let’s see. The Islamic population in Brickfields is probably about 2%. Yet a huge mosque was built for them. What about the other faiths? Where the public funding for them? Hypocrisy. Problem No.3 It is not official law but a known fact that getting permission and permits to build churches / nonmuslim places of worship is next to impossible. The only real church buildings in Malaysia are the ones built in the middle ages while the Portugese/Dutch/British were still here. All Malaysian christians know that getting a permit to build a new church building is next to never. Do you notice most churches today are in shoplots, disused factory buildings and their signs are extremely discreet? Not to mention they are not allowed to register as religious bodies but have to register as companies which in turn requires them to pay taxes. Hypocrisy. Muslims in Malaysia openly vilify any religious symbols which are not Islamic but threaten violence and retribution to those who even try to discuss Islam. Yes that’s you Zulkifli. Bloody prick. Remember the politician who demanded that crosses be removed FROM A Christian MISSION SCHOOL? Yet Muslims then demand that non muslims listen to the call to prayer 5 times a day, all schools have the Islamic prayer every morning, the list goes on and on. Remember S13 Shah Alam, or the Sabah buddhist statue? Cow Head, Keris, blablabla. Religion of Peace? Blatant Hypocrisy. Muslims cannot anymore hide behind the pathetic reason that oh it’s only a minority who behave this way.
I went to a Malay-muslim Majority primary school in KL. It was a school where there was about 20 chinese kids in the whole school. The rest was mainly Malay and Indian children of Police personnel from Bukit Aman and Civil servants. Most of the Muslim kids attended sekolah agama. When i was 9 years old my malay friends tried to convert me by asking me to repeat this arabic phrase. Annoyance no.1. Then, my 9 year old classmates would tell me, “Orang Yahudi jahat.” I asked them why? Have you met one before?Has a Jew done anything to you before? “Tak pernah. Tapi Ustaz kata dia jahat!” That is the sort of drivel that is being drilled into the minds of young muslims even in a so called Moderate Muslim nation in Malaysia.
Let’s not even start about the Arab Muslim nations. In Egpyt Friday prayers are known to openly call for the killings of non believers. And it is broadcasted all over town from the minarets! Muslims claim the divine right to convert others to Islam. But then ban others from preaching to Muslims. Hypocrisy.
There is no compulsion in Islam but when a Muslim tries to leave the faith, they are arrested and put in camps. How many Arab states do not have cases where minority faiths are discriminated, banned, destroyed, persecuted? 1 or 2? If we’re lucky. Bibles and crosses are banned in Saudi Arabia. Christians are beheaded and murdered frequently in Indonesia. Muslim minorities in Southern Thailand and Philippines frequently bomb innocent people. Christians in Gaza are murdered just for their faith. Christians in Egpyt are beaten up for trying to build a church. Christian leaders in Lebanon are frequently assasinated. Non muslims in Jordan are FORCED to convert to Islam when marrying a muslim. Aren’t the Janjaweed in Darfur who go around murdering and raping innocents Muslims? And the point of them doing it is because the victims are all unbelievers? Why don’t the Muslims protest against them like they do with Israel? Hypocrisy. When foreigners come to a muslim country, the foreigner is expected to obey and respect the customs of the Muslim Majority. But when a muslim goes to Europe, they demand that their faith be protected, respected and expect the local populace to respect Islamic practices and outdated customs that were brought from their homelands. Hypocrisy. This is not a hate essay nor is it an advocate for Christianity. I feel all instutitions of religion are full of it. This is a statement my annoyance at the double standards practiced. Islam is the second biggest faith in Europe now. America and European nations have allowed Muslims to practice their faith for decades and all over europe there are plenty of Mosques and new ones being built all the time. But can you say the same about non islamic faiths in Muslim nations? The answer is NO. The irony is Muslims do not afford the same rights and respect to non muslims they demand from others So why should a non islamic nation like switzerland afford that priviledge to the minority? Personally I feel that legally it is wrong for the Swiss to discriminate against a certain faith. But I think everyone can see where the Swiss are coming from.
Persecution against non muslims is somewhat an expected fact of life in Muslim majority nations. It is also common knowledge that muslim immigrants in Europe, especially the UK and France refuse to integrate into mainstream society. They establish reclusive communities which most of the time are the run down unmanageble ghettos. Just look all over UK. Places like East London, Bradford, parts of Birmingham. I grew up in Brickfields but holy hell i would not want to go to these areas. I don’t blame the Swiss from wanting to prevent these sort of things from happening. And Switzerland is a very pretty country. Even in a so called multicultural nation like Moderate muslim Malaysia there is open discrimination against non islamic faiths. So the Swiss muslims can’t build a fucking minaret to blast the call of prayer all over Zurich? Boo hoo.
You’ll get the respect you deserve. Not the respect you demand.
Three years and four months.
X number of the Anti-Corruption Agency and Attorney-General’s office ‘man-hours’ on the case.
X amount billed to the public, not withstanding the RM 3 billion losses incurred by Perwaja.
The cost of all the above?
Priceless.
“The prosecution’s case has been negated by their own evidence and crippled by the non-calling of essential witnesses.” - Sessions judge Akhtar Tahir.
The prosecution’s case failed because they did not register the evidence with the court in a proper manner and did not let the defense teams have access.
Sound familiar?
They’re doing it to Anwar now. Refusing access to evidence to the defense team.
And the latest high profile UMNO linked person to be acquitted is Kasitah.
Again because the prosecution had failed to prove a case. Why then go to court if you do not have a proper case?
Remember the Tourism DG Mirza?
Also acquitted when the prosecution failed to prove a case.
So really, Selangor DAP have nothing to worry about. The prosecution are pretty terrible at even making up evidence. If Selangor DAP do really get convicted, we’ll know it’s rigged. Because in a fair fight, the prosecution can never win.
Its either they are really just abysmal or just playing a game. Trying to show we tried.
This is great piece written by anonymous on the Bar Council Website.
Last night I had dinner with an old bunch of friends from my college days. It was a mix of ages. Beginning from mid twenties to earlier thirties. A few young married couples. And at one point in the night the topic of conversation came to the deterioration of education in Malaysia. The married couples have been considering things like home schooling, private education or public schools for their children in the future. And how beginning from their parent’s time the rot begun and how deep would the rot be by the time it reaches their own children.
After lenghty discussions about how American/British/Private education/Home schooling benefits or denies the child of certain values and opportunities and also how inept the Government has been at ensuring a good education system, it struck me that no one had mentioned that it all boils down to politics. We were all complaining about the bad system but not what is ultimately ensuring that a bad system is in place. And the fuel to the inept system is us. The voters. Our parents started the rot by voting in Barisan Nasional election after election for 50 years even though things got worse and worse and we just kept the same inept politicians in charge. No one in that room actually realised that yes we can change the system to a better one until I had pointed it out. Most people had the line of thinking of oh well. What to do?…….. Sigh sigh sigh. The fact is we can actually change the system, by voting and voicing our displeasure alot more vocally. Not just in the comforts of our living rooms. That what a democracy is for!
Never before has dissent been stronger. I watched as my fellow Malaysians were gassed and hosed down with chemicals on Saturday. At least the chemicals did not discriminate unlike a certain ruling Party. Young, old, Malay, Chinese, Indian, crutches, spectacled, doesn’t matter. I watched a man with horror etched on his face as he carried his two young chilidren on his shoulders and ran away from the oncoming red trucks. The police didn’t care about the tourists, weekend shoppers, young children. It looked as if they were pretty happy to get a chance to finally use those cannons and guns they’ve been training to use in their camps.
My starting point was Masjid Jamek. When enough had gathered, we began the procession. Barely taking 20 steps and BOOM. We ran helter skelter away from the gas into the little lanes surrounding the Lrt station. Making our way thru little lanes and side streets wiping away the tears and washing the sting with water, most of us found our way to Sogo. And hundreds at a time, more people arrived. When we managed to fill up the entire junction of Sogo with people it felt like a moral victory. I felt the job was pretty much done. We’d had made a statement. Even after all the obstructions set in place by the authorities and chemicals, we’d made it thru. So many of us. Seeing all those people united for one cause made me feel more Malaysian than ever.
Yesterday Zaid Ibrahim, Tony Pua and Zulkifli Ahmad spoke at a forum in Bangsar Village. The topic was “Is Pakatan Rakyat sustainable?” At the beginning of the forum, half the upper middle class crowd of about 400-500 responded that they had doubts of whether PR could become a viable coalition and maintain their momentum to evolve Malaysian politics into a two party system. By the time those three were done, I would say most if not all barring the Special Branch officers were convinced that PR would not let themselves to let the Voters down.
Zulkifly Ahmad from PAS mentioned something probably stuck in everyone’s minds. Bearing in mind the different ideologies the three parties in PR have, those ideologies are secondary when it comes to our common goals.
So the question above is answered simply by, Pakatan will have no other choice but to ensure that Pakatan is sustainable because the Voters will not settle for any less. We have been given the responsiblity and ‘die die’ we have to see it thru. – lest we want to continue being chucked in prison by BN every other week for the next 50 years and my children graduating from high school with an IQ of negative.
“…. liberty, freedom and dignity are not free vouchers posted out to each household. They do not come to those who just sit and wait. They have to be fought for, and gained. “
- Yeo Yang Poh
Does the Kuala Lumpur Draft Plan affect you?
You have seen advertisements in the papers and on the city lampposts that DBKL has been promoting the KL Draft Plan. But what is it actually? Does it affect you as the ratepayer? Does it affect you as a citizen of Kuala Lumpur?
Your Rights as a Ratepayer
We all pay taxes. Therefore DBKL is accountable to us who ultimately pay their salaries. But, in Kuala Lumpur, the Federal Territory Minister (who is the only BN MP ‘elected’ in KL) and the Datuk Bandar have full powers over what happens to Kuala Lumpur without having to be accountable to any other party or ratepayers. They make unilateral decisions that no one can object to all the time and this is the case now with the KL Draft Plan. The plan is for public scrutiny now but however DBKL has full authority to decide whether any objections or feedback will be considered. Based on past dealings with DBKL, it is likely that they will ignore you.
What DBKL wants you to believe with the KL Draft Plan
DBKL mentions a few reasons as to why the plan has been formulated the way it is now.
1. To be a World Class City
- The infrastructure, public transport system and maintenance of Kuala Lumpur currently is already inadequate to support the current status of the city
2. City Living Environment
- DBKL envisions the population of KL to increase by another 600,000 persons by the year 2020. They propose this by increasing and changing the existing the population density in many parts of Kuala Lumpur. This means that instead of controlling the congestion in the city, DBKL will be purposely increasing the congestion level in the city
3. Connectivity and Accessibility for the City
- They intend to build the infrastructure needed AFTER they increase the population of Kuala Lumpur and DBKL intends to achieve this by ONLY building new LRT lines
4. Protecting and enhancing the environment
- DBKL once had a plan for Kuala Lumpur to be a Garden City. However, what we see today is the constant destruction of our green areas, green belts, playgrounds and parks to accommodate the 600,000 more persons DBKL wants in Kuala Lumpur. The National Physical Plan implemented by the Federal Government calls for 2 hectars of open space per 1000 persons in an area. The current level in KL is 0.38 hectars per 1000 persons and this will go down even further to a level of about 0.20 when the KL Draft Plan is implemented.
5. Enhancing Green Network and Blue Corridor
- Proposals for green areas and parks are barely visible in the plan. DBKL has already cited the lack of land in Kuala Lumpur as a reason for increasing population density. In fact many residents have already noted that the green areas in their neighbourhoods have been converted to commercial and luxury home developments. These developments are already going on even BEFORE the Draft Plan is implemented. Does this mean that the Draft Plan is only a means of legitimizing DBKL’s ad-hoc development? The current sorry state of Kuala Lumpur’s rivers and parks are currently proof of DBKL’s inability to take care of issues currently at hand.
Why We must Reject this Plan
The hidden focus of this Plan is evidently not to make Kuala Lumpur a world class city but only to increase the profitability of DBKL by allowing more uncontrolled development to take place. IE:- more taxes, more ratepayers.
Kuala Lumpur currently faces too many problems that need to be remedied before any more development should be allowed to take place. Every KL-ite is unhappy about the congestion, inadequate public transport and the pollution that goes on unchecked in the city. DBKL’s solution is to increase population and decreasing green areas BEFORE addressing these issues.
Malaysians have over time lost their capacity to stand up for their rights. Time and again bullied into a studied silence, reminded at every occassion that ‘big brother knows better and rules with a big stick’ and that it is ‘not the Malaysian culture to challenge the powers that be,’ a vast majority of Malaysians have resigned into speechless, un-opinionated zombies. Not surprising therefore that when it comes to being proactive in community concerns and common responsibilities educated Malaysians rate rather poorly, apart from the 10 – 15 % odd that rise to the occassion. Is it right for the remaining 80% to be indifferent and unresponsive?
What can be the reasons for this? Perhaps ‘not wanting to get into trouble’ or ‘attracting unnecessary attention ? … yes the last 38 years may best be characterised as the very, very, sensitive years, when anything and everything seemed to be within the ambit of the OSA, which included highway concessionare contracts, atrocious road tolls increase, cracked bridges, spurious defence deals, judiciary in the docks, sports scandals, port building, destruction of green lung, scandalous railway projects, un-working steel mills, oil revenues unaccounted by the treasury, repeated bankrupting of banks, national car on life support, MAS on skidrow etc etc.
Perhaps Malaysians have gotten used to seeing disasters happen with clockwork regularity and their rights to protest emasculated, or see protesters marched off to jail … perhaps all these have lead to a pervasive sense of ‘indifference is the best policy’.
But things are changing … 8th March has shown that the country is waking up and it is time we took back what is ours! We cannot let an unelected body like DBKL continue to ravage our city for their own interests and treat the ratepayers like cash cows anymore!
So please SPEAK UP! No one else is going to fight for your City other than YOU!
Faith and fundamentalism
I FELL in love with the concept of constitutional law a few years ago; the rights it enshrines are based on principles every man and woman must uphold in order to ensure human dignity, yet, in such a way that we are able to live together harmoniously.
It makes sense that if we wish others to respect our way of life, we must also be willing to do the same for others.
Therefore, it follows that if we expect others to uphold and fight for our right to live in the way we choose, we must also be willing to uphold these same rights for them.
My flatmates recently recommended that I read the book The God Delusion, by Richard Dawkins. I plowed through it at a snail’s pace for the last few weeks, which is painful for someone who can breeze through 10 books in a day.
I just completed Chapter Three. Kiasuness decrees that I finish Chapter Four, even though I had a headache the last time I read the book. I cannot say for sure what it is about (I have not read even half of the book) although it is clear that the writer does not think much of religion.
My flatmate tells me that it is a convincing treatise on how the world will be a better place without religion. It was difficult to explain to him how my cultural upbringing as a Catholic woman has made me a more compassionate person. This does not mean that an atheist cannot be just as loving as a person who professes a faith. I just think that after a while, labels are useless in labelling a person as just or unjust.
The problem, as I see it, is this insistence we have on claiming an identity. How can an identity represent entirely who a person is? Therefore, how does being a Christian tell you who I am, or a Chinese for that matter? Or in the author’s case, an atheist British man?
Being Chinese does not make one filial, neither does being a Christian make one charitable. My atheist flatmate seems to love his parents and has worked in an area which was ranked one of the poorest places in Britain. Something which most of the people I used to attend church with would never contemplate doing, for all their posturing on how Jesus of the Bible transforms you.
Primarily, what disturbs about religion is not so much the concept of spirituality. My personal definition of spirituality is this: that there is a force out there called Love, which is the God I believe in. How we learn to embody this force is a personal journey. We experience Love along individual paths.
Instead, what disturbs is fundamentalism and the institutionalisation of religion.
Fundamentalism takes the view that “it is my way or the highway”. It means imposing your perspective and will on others. Faith, to me, can only be carried by one who realises that he or she knows nothing. True humility decrees that what we know goes as far as our best knowledge, which can only be experienced.
Words fail to describe experience.
Words, anyway, are a mere invention to describe what we perceive. What we perceive is only one perspective that may be inaccurate. Language can further distort this perspective. More truthful is, therefore, the truth that is felt with the heart.
Institutionalisation of religion is another form of the “my way or the highway” approach. A friend once pointed out that only a secular country can truly enable a religion to flourish.
With a political system that institutionalises religion, there can be only one interpretation of the Quran, the Bible, the Buddhist scriptures or the Mahabharata and Ramayana.
History has shown, time and again, that this approach had led, for example, to the murder of children during the Christian Crusades and the mistreatment and violence that both men and women suffer on a large scale.
One fails to see the God in this.
One must therefore ask, will we ever learn? Do we have the courage to acknowledge these historical occurrences?
Theology has shown how, with time, interpretation changes with society. Our interpretations of whatever scripture we subscribe to therefore hold no guarantee of perfection.
To the best of our knowledge, even with the most loving intentions, there is never any guarantee that we know exactly what we are doing in the moment. The consequences of our actions carry across miles and through the cosmos, far beyond the boundaries of what we can foresee.
This is what I believe the Constitution protects: the freedom to pursue our paths of choice, but without impinging on the freedom of others or in a way that leads to the detriment of one’s neighbour. How well this freedom and system of mutual respect is protected is up to us.
Who we are as human beings must inevitably evolve. We are constantly moving towards increasing complexity. As opposed to a more complex bigoted and violent reality, hopefully, towards a direction of increasing compassion – for love, truth and peace.
Petra is studying law.
She wants to become the first lady of Malaysia. Yesterday she and the C4 bomber were in Parliament.
Karpal wanted to ask a question to Najib during question time. Here’s what the wannabe First Lady said.
“Why don’t you stand up and say it!”
Tut tut.
Firstly, remember folks that in the Federal Territories, Pakatan has got 10 out of the 13 seats offered. Yet it is BN who controls the state. It is BN who appoints the Mayor and it’s officials. Our 10 MPs have NO SAY in the governance of the state and HAVE to resort to such ’round table’ meetings for DBKL to even consider what the people’s chosen representatives have to say.
The Citizens of Kuala Lumpur have clearly given the mandate to Pakatan to govern Kuala Lumpur.
I’d like to comment on the two news articles you will see below. Firstly, Tengku Adnan storms off.
1. All the Pakatan MPs gave speeches, gave views on matters that effected their constituencies. None of the BN MPs gave anything.NST comments that undi-pos MP of Setiawangsa* Zulhasnan has to be given credit for staying the full nine hours. Well, what did he really do? Neither did he contribute, nor did he bring up issues that concerned his constituency. Adnan just storms off. And he’s right. It was rubbish. I attended the thing and i can honestly say that it was all just DBKL’s usual rhetoric and empty promises. When he was leaving the room, someone did shout, “What a rubbish MP!” The other BN MP i think didn’t even bother showing up. The other thing the press did not mention was, there was a retreat for ALL BARISAN NASIONAL MPs going on at the same time upstairs! So how were all the MPs for FT supposed to attend when the BN MPs had two functions at the same time!
2. This was rightly brought up by Lim Lip Eng that why was it held in Hotel Istana. I’m sure the costs of having a two, all day function complete with lunch and refreshments in such a place is not cheap. Who will ultimately be bearing the costs? You the taxpayers. Remember, DBKL’s budget Per Annum is RM2.4 Billion of taxpayer money. DBKL has so many buildings and so much space. Auditoriums and what not. Why not use those instead?
3. Saravanan claims the forum was for the MPs to bring up constructive issues to improve the lives of city folk. Really want to improve our lives? Stop the corruption. If you really honestly believe DBKL is NOT corrupt, why did Pakatan win 10 out of 13 seats?
4. The MPs did bring up many issues. But somehow these were dismissed as petty. However, these issues have been ISSUES for a long time now. If DBKL say they are doing their jobs and listening to the public, why are these issues still issues after 20 years?
5. 3 out of the 10 Pakatan MPs were reported to have launched attacks on DBKL. Rightly so I feel. Anyway, why did Saravanan focus on the 3 only? What about the other 7’s constructive views? Sadly, Saravanan has again done what he did last week when Pakatan MPs met with Datuk Bandar. DBKL invites us to ‘meet’ him. Asks us for our views which are the views of the people but neither gives any replies nor any commitment to solve such things, and then when the Pakatan MPs are not there, tells the press a wonderful story. Saravanan and his boss did it before when they asked us to prove they were corrupt. Saravanan failed to mention that in the meeting just 10 minutes before, the Pakatan MPs had produced the evidence in hard copy. Photographs and reports were given to them just 10 minutes before claiming to the press otherwise.
6. I also attended a session where matters about Public Service was discussed. Matters such as rubbish and floods were ‘discussed’. However sitting thru 2 hours of it, i found it to be an excellent waste of time. When asked about matters about rubbish collection and the state of litter in Kuala Lumpur, DBKL just passed the buck to the private contractors such as Alam Flora. They handle all rubbish collection so please contact them instead. We just pay them a fixed amount, how effecient they are, complaints so forth should be directed to them. Same scenario with the local drains and such. Alam Flora. Also they just further put the blame on the citizens for not having a civic minded mindset as to keep the city clean etc. Not much was discussed on how DBKL was going to encourage recycling, on how it is also part of their task to encourage people to change their habits. On floods, nothing was mentioned regarding the over development in KL, the ridiculous bad planning by DBKL, the destruction of our green areas that retain water and the bad design of roads and drainage that just cant cope with all the traffic and water.
7. “If I invite you to my house and you keep hitting me, do you expect me to just sit and and watch?” Saravanan asked. Well, if DBKL ran things well, there would be nothing to hit. Your job as a civil servant is to be hit and listen to what the people are not happy about. What you organised this meeting so we’d come and sing praises to you in the hopes that you’d only do the work if i sucked your dick?
8. DBKL serve the people. Not BN. Why is Saravanan going so far to bend over for the BN MPs and going so far as to stick up for them? Are you not supposed to be impartial?
9. Sitting thru the forum for two days and listening to issues the NGOs and the MPs brought up, I found it quite tedious. It was the same old issues that have been going on and on for years. I would like to know, WHAT HAS DBKL AND THE PREVIOUS BN MPs ACUTALLY BEEN DOING ALL THESE YEARS?
I sat at the same table as Lee Chong Meng during lunch . He said this. “You know, those issues the Pakatan MPs have been bringing up, are the same issues i’ve brought up with DBKL time and time and time again. But as usual DBKL do nothing.” Even the BN reps can’t get DBKL to do anything. Great.
The seasoned NGOs as well said the same thing. We’ve had all these discussions with DBKL before. Nothing ever gets done anyway. But we have no choice. We still have to come. We will die trying.
So really, I honestly thought the past two days were a waste of time. Hearing DBKL spew it’s rhetoric over and over again, honestly made me sick. I get reports about ppl having to pay DBKL to remove fallen trees in front of their homes, more reports about mamak shopowners having to pay off DBKL to keep their tables on the pavements etc.
DBKL needs reform. The Federal Territory Act needs reform. How FT is run need total reform. Did you know Labuan and Putrajaya are run under a body called Perbadanan Labuan and Perbadanan Putrajaya. In essence it’s a company. They need not report to ANYONE. Directors have full control. As usual, no accountability.
Tan Sri Robert Phang brought up this issue. We have 10 Pakatan MPs, yet the single BN MP in KL is the Minister that RULES us all.
Also, NST continues it’s rubbish reporting. How does Minderjeet Kaur and Irdiani Mohd Salleh sleep at night after writing such ridiculous praises about Zulhasnan? *He’s the FT Minister who organised the whole exercise. It’s his job to be there all day. You don’t give credit to someone who’s is doing what he is already supposed to do. You give a person credit when he can actually win a Parliamentary seat without needing to resort to postal votes. He didn’t even speak up on issues regarding his constituency so…..you guys in Setiawangsa really f-cked up. Pak Ibrahim is such a great guy. Would have done a much better job. But then again, it was the cheating. Not you.
And oh yes, have some nuts Saravanan. I dare you to say these things right to the faces of the MPs. You only ever say it to the press when the Pakatan MPs are long gone. At least we have the guts to say it out in full view without FEAR because we know it’s the truth. Spineless.